i think what's going to happen on the debt ceiling they're going to vote to extend the debt ceiling for a couple of months and that's good. we don't want to be in a situation where we're defaulting or the threat of default, but i think they need to tie that back to something and maybe it's not the big and grand bargain with the entitlement plans right now, but i think at a minimum they have to tie it back to getting a budget at the senate, that begins the conversation. >> greta: it seems to me one of the large problems that small businesses have, correct me if i'm wrong, there's no certainty because congress and the president never make up their mind and they bring everything to the brink and pass something for three months. you don't no he what's going to happen with our tax structure or the debt ceiling. am i right? they don't sit down and make a decision that the lack of impact to make decisions in your business. >> one thing is a lack of certainty and the things we're certain of for small businesses, and hate to keep beating a dead horse, president obama is one of the job killers in